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YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

I'm not a huge fan of Sheppard (I know, I know), but he makes for some good watching! And I love Ford (Rainbow Sun Franks' character).

Wait until you get to season 2! That's when LORNE shows up (in small amounts, but still).

I'm really glad that things are going well with the prompt fic! I still haven't even got an idea for mine :(

Welcome back. With BEER.

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I really like all the characters; Dr. Weir is awesome. I love that she's a little out of her element. I mean, she's in charge of the mission and has been from the get-go, so she's clearly been trained to lead. But being trained to lead and then being in these life-or-death situations in which she is responsible for, say, maintaining the civil liberties of the Ethosians----much different. I also like that she's not afraid to make the tough decisions and that she also doesn't consider her emotions a liability.

Ford is awesome! He's so sweet and loyal and good at his job and funny. McKay kills me; I love that he is so flawed. I am a huge fan of flawed characters. Teyla I like, although not as well as Weir. I think because she's an alien, they've got the actress playing Teyla doing this sort of weird things with her mannerisms and etc to indicate that difference, and it hits me kinda odd.

Mostly, I'm just really impressed with the writing. The dialogue is great in this show and I did not expect that.

Yay! Beer!

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I'm not a huge fan of Weir - although it might be that the later seasons with her have soured me a little bit. She's just - flat or something to me. But I like Teyla (and she gets less awkward over time), and Ford = good times! And McKay Of The Snark is enjoyable always!

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Do you know of any good Ford slash stories?

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...*sigh* no. Not offhand. It sucks. McKay/Sheppard exploded all over the fandom, and Ford kind of got pushed aside. I'll look around and see what I can find, though!

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Well, if I find any, I'll be sure to share. :)

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Thanks! I just made a post in my journal asking for recs, so maybe something will come out of that!

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Yay! I love how my friends enable me. LOL

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I live to serve!

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executrix.livejournal.com

Welcome home! Good work on the writing!

In one sense I am very glad that you are having enjoyable DVD watching and possibly a new fandom, but I cannot really approve your spending so much time watching shows I am not interested in. Once I get my HLOTS box set you will, of course, be welcome to borrow the early seasons.

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Heeeee. I know. I keep saying I'm going to eschew new TV and then I get Netflix. LOL At the rate I'm burning through the eps, though, I'll be done with season one just as fast as they can send me the discs.

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yeah!!!

It's such a fun show...full of flaws but with the bestest fandom to fill in the gaps.

And as a big Sheppard fan, I wholly approve of your liking him :) [And I agree that the pilot indeed is not bad at all...I was enthralled when I first watched it]

Also, open offer: if you decide to watch it all, I'll gladly burn you the third season and send it your way!

And if you want to try out some fic...I have a pretty decent thematic list...

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Woooooooooooo! You, my dear, are an enabler. And for that, you get eleventy million karma points. I am indeed watching it the whole way through. I would love love love a copy of season 3.

Ooooh, link me to the fic list! I'm definitely ready to jump in that water.

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*bg* anytime!!!

i've brought quite a few great writers into SGA with my pimping and CD sending skills :) if i can't do anything else...pimping i can!!!

email me your address at cathexys at gmail
[do you want S2 as well?]

And the rec list is here (http://cathexys.livejournal.com/186568.html?style=mine) (I'm a few months behind, but that should be a good beginning :) SGA is a grownup fandom, not in the mature, weighty topic sense but in the "we've gone through the epic and the drama and the wank and the meta...let's just have fun!!!" sense (at least that's my impression of it...i'm fascinated by the differences to SPN, for example, which are not just a function of the source text, I'd argue!)

the recs are on three pages, with oner just for various forms of AUs (i love AUs and SGA fandom loves them :) and one for multimedia and vids. I linked Henry at some point to it after he asked, and starred the ones I thought might be most appealing, so that might be an intro...

Oh, and as a really short intro, I posted this (http://cathexys.livejournal.com/271281.html?) a bit ago...

If you need sth more specific or like/dislike certain things, let me know and I can give you more personal recs...oh, and you may watch out for S2 eps, b/c there are big spoilers in all of those and then in Season 3 you may need to watch out for post-Sunday fic (though I think there shouldn't be any on my rec list yet).

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It's funny; the only episode of SGA I'd ever seen before I Netflixed season one was "Sunday," so I'm completely spoiled for that LOL

I can't wait to get started on that rec list; I'd have to be oblivious not to know that Sheppard/McKay is the most popular pairing in the fandom, but I'm hoping to find some Ford/Sheppard as well and some Teyla/Weir.

Out of curiosity, what do you see as the differences between SGA and SPN fandom?

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Can't help you on the Sheppard/Ford...I didn't find the dynamic that interesting and there wasn't really a whole lot of fic except really early on.

I've read some nice Teyla/Weir, but don't think I have any on my rec list...it's pretty much McShep all the way :)

I know too little about SPN to really speak knowledgeable, but it seems to be more earnest, less outright in your face cracktastic. A large number of fans are in their early fandoms, it seems (2nd or 3rd) whereas in SGA it was like the reunion of XF and HL there for a while...

Ces coined the term post-popslash fandom a while back, and I think that might be a good descriptor for style, wackiness, engagement with the source text...ot it might just be the difference between writing for a decent and a not quite so decent show :)

[and, of course, I'm horribly generalizing from way too little evidence]

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Hmmm..... you may be right. My impression of SPN is that the vast majority of the crack lies in the RPF portion of the fandom. This is not to say that there aren't hilarious stories about Sam and Dean, but most of those are not, say, wacky AUs but instead fic that plays up the more humorous components of canon and their characterization. In fact, there are very, very few AUs in the fandom that aren't RPF, which surprised me at first because Buffy fandom has many of those.

(and by AU, I mean the kind in which Sam is a cab driver in NY who picks up Dean the lawyer one fateful night--not the kind that changes a canonical plot point--Mary didn't die, or Dean became paralyzed in the season one car crash)

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SGA has both--the wacky John and Rodney are musicians as well as the John got discharged/left and Rodney never got to go to Atlantis etc.

Not as many apofic as I'm used from Buffy/XF/XMM, but then a lot of the stories are very claustrophobically focused on the guys or the team anyway (though that's the same in SPN, I guess :)

I haven't read any RPF other than PWPs in SPN, b/c I'm really not that interested in those lives, y'know... (or maybe I ODed in pop :)

And yes, humor coming out of the text is different than the meta-layered wackiness...

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executrix.livejournal.com

However, I think that it's important taxonomically to point out that not all crackfics are wacky or intended to be wacky. There could be a perfectly serious story about John and Rodney's life on the road (or in a string quartet). I'm working on a ficathon story now where Mal is the pastor of a megachurch--obviously that's a serious departure from canon, but the story isn't a laugh-filled romp.

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Actually, yes, they are. (at least in all the myriad, slightly differing and yet still somewhat similar descriptions I've seen)

AUs aren't necessarily crackfics and crackfics aren't necessarily AUs, but crackfics are always meant to be wacky...

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executrix.livejournal.com

Agreed that not all AUs are crackfics, but I think that the key of a crackfic is not only the extreme degree of AUness but "for reasons that do not need to be explored at this juncture..."

Although, outside the fannish context, I'd consider both "Damn Yankees" (middle-aged baseball player becomes young again through a pact with the Devil) and "The Fly" (scientist gets stuck in his own matter-transmutating device) to be crackfics even though only one of them is arguably wacky and both of them have an explanation.

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I'm not sure I'd describe either one as a crackfic--or maybe it depends on how it souds. Tone seem to be quite as a big an aspect of crackfic as content...

[and yes, there's definitely a definition of crackfic that goes with the "for reasons that do not need to be explored at this juncture" but i don't think it's the majority one (any more?)]

of course, crackfic can be quite serious and earnest but then the wackiness is between our fannish expectations and what's happening...like, too many cliches, even when done seriously can become cracky?

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That's my personal def as well.

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I've always thought of crackfic as fic that's wacky or ridiculous (even while often being quite awesome). I consider AU a completely different category than crack because not all AU is cracktastic. But those are just my own personal defs.

I can't wait to read that story, BTW. I think it will be very interesting. I always like what you do with the FF bunch in terms of their personal beliefs.

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You know, I was not into RPF until SPN. I didn't read any in the Jossverse which is really the only other fandom I've been involved in. I think I approach RPF differently than a lot of people do, though. I'm not interested in the *actual* people being written about, only the personas that certain writers create. I don't, for instance, look up info about Jensen Ackles or watch his TV appearances or know what his favorite color is. Because I don't really care about the real JA.

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lyr

Welcome home! *hugs* It's good to see you back! I hope you had a happy birthday.

And SGA? You remember how I said that someday you'd find your way into all of my fandoms? Well, chalk up another one. Whoohoo! Come in in; the water's fine. You can find me mostly over in the Sheppard/McKay part of this particular pond.

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Heeeeeeeeee. Here I am, rock me like a hurricane. LOL

I am seriously loving the show. And

cathexys hooked me up with a huge ass rec page; once I'm done working my way through those I'll put a post on my journal asking for everyone else's recs.

I like the Sheppard/McKay fic, but I gotta say, I don't see a lot of subtext for it in the show thus far (not that that's necessary AT ALL for a pairing to work); I see much more John/Weir, Teyla/John, John/Ford Rodney/Carson going on.

It's so shiny and exciting to get into a new fandom.

I've written more on Proud Typewriter. It's kinda going slower than I thought it would, but that's okay right, cause we're not supposed to post these suckers til Aug 1st. LOL

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lyr

You let me know when you're ready. I've got plenty of recs, too. Plus, of course, I've got a few SGA pieces myself. I gravitate to the Sheppard/McKay primarily because it offers me lots of opportunities to write friendly, flirty, bickering snark. Though I do think there's more canonical support for it as time goes on, too.

And happy writing! August 1st is far enough away that there's no need to worry too much yet.

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