lunabee34: (writer by sukibluefiction)
Finishing 2014's December Talking Meme before December 2015 rolls around is probably a good idea.

[personal profile] executrix asked: What's the line between being "fannish" about something and "watching/reading/listening" to it?



The older I get, the less likely I am to become fannish about a new movie or show or book and start writing fic. I think the last time I did that was Live Free or Die Hard, and that was 2007 (nearly ten years ago!).

I post episode reviews of shows I'm watching sometimes. I even go look up fic to read sometimes; I did this most recently with Penny Dreadful, Ancillary Justice, Uprooted, and The Big Bang Theory. But I don't feel the urge to write fic very often anymore.

Ten years ago, I got fic inspiration the same way I used to get inspiration for writing poetry. I'd be walking along, doing my every day thing, and suddenly a line of poetry would appear in my head and I'd have to write it down; then a poem would take shape, usually rather quickly around that one line. In a similar fashion, I'd be watching a show or a movie (sometimes reading, but almost always watching something), and a line or a scenario or what happens next would pop into my head, and I'd write it down, and then a fic would take shape, usually rather quickly. This is why I spent the five hour drive from Oxford to Hattiesburg writing snippets of a fic on a napkin I was holding in the middle of the steering wheel; I just couldn't get the idea of Sam caught in a ghost-loop out of my head. I also ugly-cried the whole way, endangering the structural integrity of my napkins with my tears. This is why I also spent my lunch break at Security Check feverishly writing down thousands of words of Vala backstory instead of eating my lunch on the sidewalk like God intended people who don't deserve break rooms to eat.

That . . . just doesn't happen anymore. Every fic I've written in the last, oh I don't know how many years, has been the result of me signing up for a fest or a ficathon or as a thank you to someone (oh, [personal profile] endeni, don't worry; that thank you is still plugging along)--scenarios I've deliberately constructed in order to make myself write. (Well, I suppose the exception to that is the handful of fics I wrote when I first got into perfume fandom two Aprils ago; those came to me much in the same way I used to be inspired to write fic.)

(As an aside, I don't write poetry anymore at all. I think the last poem I wrote was in the last year of undergrad. I loved writing poetry and wrote poems extensively until I entered grad school. I think if I tried hard enough I could probably tease out why I stopped writing poems, but it was a craft I was very serious about honing until I just dropped it abruptly and entirely and now I never even think of writing poetry.)

So, I guess what I'm saying is that I measure my own level of fannishness by whether I'm writing fic, and I don't seem to be doing much of that anymore, especially not for new media. I am, however, still faithfully reading Harry Potter fic every chance I get, so there's that.
lunabee34: (fandom is my fandom by laurashapiro)
I started reading Neil Gaiman’s Trigger Warnings, and I think he has some insightful things to say about trigger warnings and our understanding of and expectations for literature.

I don’t think his discussion of trigger warnings in the introduction to the short story collection applies to fanfiction, though.

I would never suggest a monolithic fandom umbrella under which we all shelter, no one set of standards or rules or social mores that govern fandom at large. I think fandom is more like a school of jellyfish—each jellyfish one central body (canon) from which thousands of tendrils drift in a variety of currents, moving in different ways and to different places and sometimes overlapping. So while I would never posit a One True Fandom Experience, I do think that many fannish spaces have a thing or two in common, one of which is a sense of community.

such a herd of tl;dr )

I’m really looking forward to this collection. I think Gaiman’s real strength is as a short story writer, so I anticipate a good read.
lunabee34: (hp: snape trouble by so_severus)
1. My BPAL order shipped! Holy vetiver, mother of all that is yummy, I cannot wait to try these out!

2. I am about halfway done with my Yuletide fic. Great prompt as ever. The Yuletide gods smile upon me, my friends. I don't know what I have done to ingratiate myself to them, but I hope it lasts forever. :)

3. Finally got around to making Christmas cards with Shutterfly (seventy five free photo cards courtesy of Pampers rewards; it pays to singlehandedly keep the diaper industry solvent!), and they are criminally adorable.

On to the meme!

[personal profile] the_rck asked: One fandom you didn't expect to love but did (or one you expected to love and didn't. Your choice).

I'll answer both. I did not expect to like Harry Potter at all. I read the first book my first year in grad school. MLA was in New Orleans that year, and I read the first book in the hotel bathtub while Josh was staying out way past his bedtime on Bourbon Street. I did not like it at all. I'd had four years of hype to listen to, and I just didn't care for the book at all and assumed that would be the end of it.

I caught the first two movies on TV later and loved them. I saw the third and subsequent movies in theater. I think I didn't actually read the books, though, until right before the last book came out, and in the lead in to the release, I read them all from the beginning. My first HP rec post is dated 2007 which substantiates this recollection.

I still like the first book the least, but HP has grown to be my go-to fandom. If I decide to read fanfic, I am more likely to read HP than any other fandom.

As far as the second question goes, I thought I was going to be head over heels into Guardians of the Galaxy fandom, and for whatever reason--inertia, busyness, etc.--I have only read like two GotG stories period. Nothing is keeping me from the fandom. I haven't disliked anything I've read or seen. IDK why I'm not more actively pursuing participating given how much I thoroughly enjoyed the movie. :(
lunabee34: (btvs: mom by paigegail)
Here's my contribution to this year's [community profile] month_of_meta / [ profile] month_of_meta.

DISCLAIMER: This essay is highly subjective, reflects my own experience, and is in no way intended to suggest a One True Approach to either parenting or fandom.

Parenting the Fannish Child )
lunabee34: (true blood: jessica by whenitsquiet)
1. I got linked to on an academic blog! As [personal profile] lunabee34 so it can't go on my vita, but yayness. Here's the link: Writing Sandcastles Versus Playing in Sandboxes: The Writing Life in the Twenty-First Century by Alex Jenkins.

2. Sitting at 52 pages right now on the current chapter of the dissertation. I didn't write last week because I had to write a conference paper and an article for publication. Nose to the grindstone again tomorrow.

3. Even though I went to school at Ole Miss, I'd never read much Barry Hannah. A colleague who considered him a close friend and mentor gave me a couple short stories. I read one of them, and while I didn't care for it all that much, I am considering changing the title of this journal to "Hoisting the nipplements of my wayout enhooterment" as a consequence. Thoughts?

Who wants to talk about

a. last night's Game of Thrones
b. Inuyasha
c. Friedman's Magister series (still in the middle of the first book)
d. what anime we should watch next with Emma once Inuyasha is over
e. Bridesmaids (watched and kinda went meh)
f. 21 Jump Street
g. the best you read this week
h. other stuff


And, scene.
lunabee34: (fandom is my fandom by laurashapiro)
Written for [community profile] month_of_meta
Warnings: Very brief discussion of depression and anxiety

This essay is a personal narrative about my involvement in fandom. It is not intended to be a prescriptive look at fandom but rather a very personal and individually descriptive one. There are as many ways to experience fandom as there are fannish people, and I celebrate that diversity. I would never attempt to impose my experience of fandom on another fan or pretend to have the authority to dictate the multifaceted and varied beast that is Fandom. All I can do is share my own story.

That being said, I think that many fans tend to follow a handful of trajectories as their time in fandom increases, one of which is a growing sense of isolation and disconnection from fandom. I remember seeing posts describing feelings of alienation from fans who’d been around a long time when I was just a newbie and not having any idea what those fans were talking about. Now that I’m feeling a bit alienated and disconnected myself, I’ve been struggling with how to maintain ties and recover the sense of belonging I once felt.

In this essay, I discuss the factors that have contributed to my sense of disconnection, what I’ve done to try to make fandom a vital part of my life again, and the ways in which I’m still floundering. I hope this essay generates discussion; I am very interested in your fannish stories as well as staring at my own navel. If you feel disconnected from fandom, why? If not, what’s helped to maintain your sense of belonging? If you no longer feel as tied to fandom as you did in the beginning of your fannish journey, how have you chosen to deal with that change?

Fannish Trajectories: Isolation, a Sense of Disconnection from Fandom, and How We Deal )
lunabee34: (btvs: spike n dru by hsapiens)
It's a lazy, rainy night, and I'm thinking about BtVS. I'm thinking about the Buffyverse because some kind soul recced one of my stories from last year in [ profile] buffyversetop5, and that got me to thinking about [ profile] maleslashminis and how much I really enjoyed participating in that comm last year. I also happened to catch a few episodes of the show on LOGO this week--events all conspiring to make me very nostalgic for my first fandom.

One of the things I liked so much about [ profile] maleslashminis was that it forced me to be really creative and think about canon in new and interesting ways. I'd never have written Ben/Xander on my own or Giles/Jayne or even Graham/Riley. I liked the uncertain nature of the request, the fact that I never knew exactly what my recipient was going to want from a story. I miss that comm. *sniffle*

I met most of you guys in Buffy fandom, and most of you have mostly moved on, I think. We all occasionally foray back into the old stomping grounds, but I think most of us concentrate most of our fannish efforts in other places at this point.

So, I'm wondering--if you're ever nostalgic like me, what's the Buffyverse story that got away? The one you always meant to write but didn't? The one you always wanted to write but didn't think you could? The one you think that time and distance makes nearly impossible to write now? The story you always wanted to read but never found?

I suppose I am asking for writing prompts in a way, but even more than that, I am endlessly fascinated by the stories that we hold close to our hearts but never quite manage to commit to paper. Also, bored now, and talking good. :)
lunabee34: (fandom is my fandom by laurashapiro)
Dear Fandom,

Nobody says, "Ngghhh," when they are making love. Or, "Mgggghhhhh," or "garggggggh." These are the kinds of noises made by feral sheep as they leap from crag to crag delicately on cloven hooves. Or possibly the beginnings of a courtship ritual between the pirate leaders of two warring factions. Not the sexy ululations of your OTP on the cusp of the little death.

"The Captain" and "the Vulcan" politely request that they be referred to by name, or at the very least, the appropriate pronouns. "The younger man" and "the vampire" remind you that while legislation on the use of epithets is slow to move through fandom tribunal, backbuttoning in that eventuality is swift and fierce.

JENSEN ACKLES DOES NOT WANT INSIDE OUR COLLECTIVE UNDERTHINGS. This is perhaps the saddest of all truths I have to tell, dearest Fandom, because We know how good We'd be for him, don't We? Almost as good as Jared. Or Chris Kane. Or under the most dire, and intriguing, of circumstances, the CMM. What is his problem anyway? If launching ourselves down stairwells and wishing HIS BETROTHED would choke already on her own vomit aren't turn ons, I don't know what is.

Jennifer Keller is [and I learned a new word last night; brace yourselves for this one because it's aces] hoshit fabulous! And when she and Rodney do it, Sheppard presses his ear to the wall and he cries while he masturbates (just like Sam Winchester!) because Keller is just that smoking and he wants her too. Well, on the nights Elizabeth is otherwise engaged.

Pavel Chekov. The new little black dress, people. Take note.

WHERE IS THE CALDWELL/SHEPPARD? (Sorry, that one's just habit.)

And finally, I'm almost one hundred percent positive that Lucifer didn't write SGU. He got carpal tunnel writing the first three seasons of SG-1 [Hell, I got carpal tunnel of the eyes watching them] and had to retire.



ETA PS If y'all wanted to make me black and white Jo icons that wouldn't be the end of the world.
lunabee34: (meta foucault by jjjean65)
Based on conversations I've been having with you guys after Writercon, I wonder if it might be useful to separate out the question of definitions from some of the other things we've been talking about. I'd be interested to see the range of definitions for these terms laid out clearly.

So, pretend this is Twitter. In 140 characters or less for each, Tweet me your definitions of bob, gen, gron, het, and slash (and any other words you regularly use to label your stories according to sexual or romantic content).
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I want to finish my formal discussion of the con with a recap of a panel that [ profile] executrix moderated.


Exec was the lone mod and I think she did an enviable job of directing conversational traffic flow. She stepped in with a joke, a reflection, a comment--but mostly what she did was allow the audience to speak.

This is a potentially explosive conversation. A con groups together people from all segments of fandom and society at large, and the possibility for the discussion to descend into hostilities rather than anything useful is monumental. I must say that I was impressed with the group of people attending this panel. There was passion and sincerity and seriousness but also a real effort at bridge building and communal understanding and I have to credit Exec's leadership for making that possible.

Again, this was a panel that raised more issues than it provided answers for.

One of the first things that was mentioned is the propensity of slash to elide the female characters. This is one of the things that irritates me about slash the most. Erasure of female characters does not have to be a convention of m/m slash in the same way that obliterating Angel off the face of the earth isn't necessary to make Buffy/Spike a successful ship. Demonizing, killing off, or simply neglecting to mention canon characters in order to make one's OTP more written in the stars is never cool. Never. Do the extra work and write a story with depth, with nuance, instead of taking the easy route. For many of us, the journey to that non-canonical relationship is more important than the torrid sex anyway.

Someone mentioned that the idea of slash as a genre is problematic. A sexual orientation is not a genre. I agree with this whole heartedly. Like [ profile] alixtii, I think the descriptive power of a lot of the labels we use in fandom is pretty much nil at this point, particularly since they are often working at crosspurposes--serving on the one hand as warnings and on the other as advertisements.

Does a canon queer pairing fall under the heading of slash? Or does slash only signify canon subversion? I have to admit that when I first got into fandom, the Old Skool definitions of slash were not readily apparent to newbies and so I just assumed that slash meant same-sex attraction and behavior, regardless of canonicity.

One of the audience members cited slash as a shameful fannish activity and related anecdotal evidence of women who used posted het content to a community under one name and slash content under another in order to escape censure from friends.

Talk amongst yourselves.

Several people talked about the ways in which queer people's actual lived lives are not reflected in slash stories and there didn't seem to be a consensus on this issue. Some commenters felt like slash does a real disservice by not accurately reflecting the lives of queer people; others felt that as examples of fantasy, slash stories are not beholden to versimilitude. Still others felt like there isn't a Queer Standard of Experience with which to hold fiction up to anyway.

[ profile] kindkit brought up the question of creating gay communities in fic. How do you create a gay community for your character without making everyone gay or writing a whole bunch of OCs?

The most important thing that I took away from this panel was something that [ profile] callmesandy said: Write what you want, but be prepared to face the consequences. This resonates really powerfully with me. We have no censors and I am so appreciative of that. I'm glad that a wide variety of kinks and opinions get aired on the fannish stage. But by the same token, we must acknowledge that when what turns us on or makes us happy or operates as our status quo is hurtful or appropriative or misogynistic or homophobic or racist, that we can and will be called to responsiblity for what we have written by our peers. I understand that mileage on these issues varies and that true consensus is impossible. But I cannot help but applaud the activism that takes place in our microcosm of society.
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I'm back from Writercon wehre I had a fantastic time. Thanks for all the well-wishes for Josh. He's doing a lot better; it's still unclear if he has any nerve damage, but he's mobile and the pain is getting more manageable. (As a side note, somebody please write the story about realistic levels of pain for wounds. Sheppard does not just go and go and go after getting shot several times. Just saying.)

I will eventually make a more personal and namedroppy post about the social aspects of Writercon, but I wanted to start with a post about some of the panels I went to before I forget them.

Moderator: [ profile] mosca
Panelists: [ profile] enigmaticblues, Kristina Busse, [ profile] denny_dc

This was a really good panel, and as all good weighty discussions should be, one that raised more questions for me than it answered. The panel initially proposed to talk about the language used in the source texts we fan, our own fics, and our fannish socializing and infrastructure. Unfortunately because of time constraints, the last talking point wasn't really covered. I would have loved a conversation on the implications of the language we use when we squee, when we post to comms, when we communicate outside of what our fics have to say. One of the thing things that I have noticed in my fannish interactions is a real shift toward the use of and the awareness of gender neutral pronouns, which I appreciate. Although many of us are women, I have a kneejerk negative reaction to the default assumption that fandom is a wholly feminine space because it feels very exclusionary to me. This does not mean that I do not recognize and celebrate that fandom is a place where women have created power and agency for themselves; it does mean that I am uncomfortable with the narrow definition of fandom as a community that is by, for, and about women.

Back to the panel: Who gets to use sexist language? Can women, in real life interactions and in fic, reclaim sexist language much in the same way that minorities and queer people have reclaimed words used to hurt them? And in mad props to [ profile] alixtii for the best question asked at a panel I attended: at one point would language stop being reclamation or an accurate representation of the way a certain character acts or thinks and become mere perpetuation of the problem?

Nina talked about genderfuck stories and said some really interesting things about them.
1. They don't reflect trans reality and aren't really intended to, although that is changing.
2. If a woman is writing, they are often a form of venting about aspects of our lives that we don't like.
3. She read a quote for which I did not catch attribution and couldn't write fast enough to get all down, but essentially, the idea was that womanhood is a thing to be performed, a masquerade, and one of the draws of genderfuck is to transfer desire and expectation onto the male body (the "unmarked body"). Maybe one of y'all can link me to the actual quote used?
4. Nina also discussed the homophobia, misogyny, and heteronormativity that are often part and parcel of slash, particularly Old Skool Slash.

There was also a brief mention of We're Not Gay, and I just want to take a moment to reiterate how much I hate that trope. LOL I know it's an old stand-by for slash, but I just hate it. I think if you experience same-sex attraction and sexual activity then you are at least bisexual and possibly gay. I get that the trope is supposed to make the OTP special--what could be more special than changing one's sexual orientation, right? It's supposed to prove that they are so inevitable and magical that nothing can stand in the way of their epic LOVE, but mostly it seems to me to be a way to get two guys to have sex without acknowledging homosexuality at all. Although I have read it before and enjoyed, that enjoyment is usually despite the WNG trope rather than because of it.

[ profile] denny_dc started her portion of the panel with a list of insulting terms, some of which I already knew like using "gay" as a perjorative. I had not realized that dreadlocks actually is a term originally used by colonizers of Caribbean peoples to describe their hair (dreadful locks).

Moderator: [ profile] redeem147
Panelists: Debra Doyle (who I actually think was not there), [ profile] general_jinjur, [ profile] bastardsnow

This panel really made me want to read House of Leaves as SPN. Like really, really, really, really bad. Really bad.

There was a discussion of bob and gron and porny gen and I brought up queerly_gen on Dreamwidth (which only Jinjur seemed to have heard of) and essentially I thought the entire discussion was hampered by a lack of consensus about what gen really means and what its conventions are.

One of the panelists used the phrase "slash minus one" to describe stories that have slashy elements but seem very light on them or don't include sex and I think Dasha's "Salt of the Earth" was cited as an example. I think this story falls neatly into slash according to my personal definition (full discussion in comments). I also have never heard the phrase "slash minus one" and was tempted to ask during the discussion if anyone would ever use "het minus one" as a descriptor. My feeling is no. I suspect that were a story to contain a Buffy and a Spike who pined for each other and yet never consummated their relationship, that story would be called het.

Moderator: [ profile] scarlettgirl
Panelists: Kristina Busse, [ profile] shaddyr, [ profile] kalichan, and [ profile] versaphile

[ profile] scarlettgirl was an excellent moderator. I mean, really really good. There was a plan and a structure and I was impressed with the way this panel worked in terms of each panelist's contribution building on the one that came before. [ profile] shaddyr started out with an excellent discussion of pre-internet fandom, [ profile] versaphile told us all about the vagaries of archiving (and OMG, y'all, the amount of work that goes into making fandom an accessible place for us all is astonishing), [ profile] kalichan talked about reccing, the lovely mod discussed newsletters and what goes into maintaining a successful one (again with all the work!), and Nina finished with a discussion of OTW and how it is addressing a lot of the issues brought up in the other panelists' talks.

I've got one more panel to discuss but I think I'm calling it quits for the night. Sister-in-law is here and SHE IS AWESOME! I just introduced her to SPN and I think there's more of that on the plate for tonight. She's being too heavily influenced by Josh's opinion that Sam has cro-magnon forehead. Off to remedy that!
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So as I'm wending my way through the last of the SPN Big Bang offerings from this year, something struck me.

Are the art and the fic treated as separate entities? I never click on the art posts (well except for that steampunk story last year because OMG! so freaking cool); I look at the art as it's integrated into the story, but that's pretty much it. However, I know that there are art communities just like there are fic communities and lots of people who interact with fandom in primarily that way which leads me to believe that people less lame than me *are* clicking on the art posts. So I'm wondering, does the art post ever get a ton of comments while not so much the fic?

And what happens when the story is crap but the art is good? Does the merit of the story predict the response to the art?

You artists on the flist--how do you make art for a story you think is crap? Or that you wish heartily you'd gotten the change to beta? LOL Is it along the lines of writing for a ficathon prompt that you would never in a million years have chosen and that sort of makes your eyes want to bleed a little?

Now I am all interested in the visual art side of fandom. I was late to the "icons are cool" portion of fandom and super late to vids given that this is the first year we weren't suffering with dialup and I'm starting to realize there is yet another amazing aspect of fandom that I haven't yet explored.
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I've been thinking lately about fandom milestones, war wounds as it were, the kind that you're not so secretly proud of because they're evidence that you accomplished Something Awesome. And probably Porny.

So, in ascending order

1. Post fic to Yahoo listserv
2. Misunderstand how Yahoo listserv works; think no one likes your fic until you actually, oh, check your Yahoo mail
2. Get coerced into using Livejournal/Dreamwidth/Insanejournal/
3. The one-shot fic
4. The multi-chaptered, serially posted fic
5. The multi-chaptered fic posted all at once
6. Participating in your friend's ficathon
7. Participating in a stranger's ficathon and not getting a story in return
8. Running your own ficathon because, dude, exchanges are cool but also kinda sucky
9. I made a comm! I made a comm!
10. People are joining! People are joining!
11. Yuletide!
12. Maintaining a huge recs list
13. Remix
14. The Big Bang

I make this list because Big Bang is very much on my mind right now and it seems to be the pinnacle of the fannish milestone, the sort of "no really, my fingers were BLEEDING. THEY BLED. MY KEYBOARD DOES NOT WORK NOW" kind of moment we've all been waiting for. The second fic I ever wrote qualifies in length for Big Bang, if you know, I'd posted it all at once and the Buffyverse had had Big Bang. [ profile] ariadne83 and I are writing this epic SGA fic right now that's at about 19000 words and will probably be twice as long by the time we're done and part of me keeps wondering, in an abstracted and rather facetious way, how we will post it because damn it! I want the war wound, but I think Big Bang (in SGA at least) has all these inexplicable rules about pairings rather than just being the free-for-all that SPN Big Bang appears to be (Good job, SPN!). I can't help thinking of Big Bang as the last established fannish thing that I have yet to do.

So, what are your fannish milestones? What did I leave out? Can I achieve top fannish street cred if I don't ever write a Big Bang fic? LOL Talk amongst yourselves.
lunabee34: (spn: yed crazy by bunny_icons)
[ profile] executrix is pretty much the most awesome of ever and another wonderful package arrived at my house this week. One of the books included in my package is Beyond Heaving Bosoms: the Smart Bitches' Guide to Romance Novels by Sarah Wendell and Candy Tan who turned the fame of their site by the same name into a seriously kick ass book. I don't agree with everything they say in the book, but it's a very fun and irreverent read; these are gals I want on my lj flist. Anyone who is interested in the genre of romance in pro and fanfic should read this book.

One of the issues they bring up is what has been called elsewhere "code rape." You know the scenario; it shows up in just about every romance novel you read back in the seventies and eighties, what the Smart Bitches call Old Skool Romances. It goes a little something like this:

Triggery Material Beneath the Cut )

Caveats: 1. This is only my interpretation of rape in fic and not intended to be representative of what anyone else in fandom thinks. 2. I believe that people can fantasize about and enjoy reading about things that they would never do (or even *want* to do) or experience in actuality. 3. Intellectually, I often really gross myself out with the things that turn me on; my kinks often contradict my feminist sensibilities and my ethical sensibilities. I don't know how to reconcile the differences.
lunabee34: (drunk by jjjean65)

Kittens Inspired by Kittens by blakekelly0
A friend sent me this vid because it reminds her of my daughter Emma. Heeeeee. This is not fannish but rather about the joys of kittens. And precocious children.

Kingdom by absentsouls; SPN; Sam/Ruby
I love the red filter on this. I love the way that Ruby looks like a gd badass in this. I love the way the lyrics of the song and canon interact, particularly the different kinds of love the chorus explores given the images.

Like a Boss by [ profile] winterevanesce; SPN
Another Lonely Island Parody!!!! Double fifyfive thousand gagillion points of yay! I cannot stop singing this song. The original is pretty awesome too.

Genealogy of Vidding with Francesca Coppa
Ever wonder who made the first vid? How vids are made? West Coast vs. East Coast (teeeeheeeee; I feel like I'm back in high school rocking out to Dr. Dre with that one)? This is informative and interesting and features a lot of vids that I bet you haven't seen before. It's a time investment--about an hour--but this is about US and it's interesting.

Us by Lim; multifannish
You know, the first time I saw this vid I didn't think I liked it. It is probaby the most unique fanvid I've ever seen and I confess that I didn't get it to begin with. Three Millers in (see icon), this vid makes me go, "Huh?" But watched in the cold light of day, this vid is such wonderful meta commentary on what it is that we do as fandom. *loves*


The Cheese Stands Alone by [ profile] ijemanja; SGA; Gen; Vala-centric
Vala is for some inexplicable reason stranded on Atlantis without her team. This is what she does to pass the time. *guffaws*
lunabee34: (sga: john's ear by prone_tastic)
INSTA REC: Poker Face by [ profile] crysothemis; SGA vid; McShep; a thousand squealy hearts

So, here's the thing. All my friends are big ole nerds. The larping, csa-ing, vampire the masquerading, totally memorized every line in LoTR kind. And naturally they are all gaga over SGA. Last week at volleyball, my friend Mert lamented the end of SGA and when I mentioned that I could totally rec her some fanfic if she wanted to keep the torch alive, she said, "I've run across some of that where everybody's doing it with everybody else and it's just so ridiculous." I jumped on my gen bandwagon and promised her that there's more to fandom than just the AWESOMEASS PORN and I think she halfway believed me. But then she threw me for a loop. "It's always John and Rodney and I just don't get that," she says. So I found myself trying to explain the McShep to someone who owns a pair of slash goggles and is currently focusing them on Rodney and Radek but does not get the McShep subtext at all.

I found myself saying things like, "But, but in that episode with the little girl, they're like totally married," or "He calls for John the whole episode," or "Teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeammmm!" and that was not working.

Y'all know me. I NOTP. A good writer can make me believe anything and the more novel and interesting the pairing, the happier a Lorraine I be. Bring me your Teyla/Jeannie, your Sheppard/Caldwell, your OMG Dean Winchester/Rodney McKay. *rubs hands together gleefully* I do not require subtext to write a pairing; see my Bates/Kavanagh epic. But sometimes, man, the subtext hits me in the face. I will admit that I didn't see the John/Rodney subtext until around season three and of course now that I've seen it, it's woven its little insidious tendrils into the first two seasons as well.

So here's my question to you guys: If you had to explain in a maximum of ten examples why John and Rodney *could be* [notice the conditional there; not ARE, but COULD BE; I ran out of tinfoil today] doing it behind the scenes, what would you choose? Elucidate the subtext for me in easy to regurgitate bullet points please.

Incidentally, does this happen to you guys a lot? Do you find yourself explaining to your friends why Sam and Dean are totally doing it or Buffy and Faith or Kaylee and Jayne and they're all, WTF? What do you do? Do you meet a lot of resistance? Horror stories? Successes?
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Okay, so I know that there's a cyle to posting about everything in fandom and that this question has probably already been asked ad nauseum, but based on some comments to my post HERE, I'm curious about your definitions of a BNF.

In my estimation, BNF-itude is based on three factors: size of flist, number of people apparently reading fic (or watching vids or gakking icons or responding to meta or using recs) based on recs and comments, and propensity of people to engage in conversation no matter the topic (like washing dishes or kitty cat antics). I think several qualities are related to the BNF-ness: being first (in a fandom, in a trope, in a pairing), being around a long ass time, being witty, writing well, being online a lot so that commentary on new developments is instantaneous-ish.

As I said in my previous post: I mean, I know that the value of BNF changes given whichever circle you are in so that the same people are never universally recognized as BNF by all subsets of fandom. It's a thing that is often very difficult to quantifiably measure. But I do think it exists and I think it depends on perspective. For instance, I have a very different picture of who the BNFs are than I did as newbie and that picture was based on wholly different criteria. Nonetheless, at each stage of my fannishness, I've been able to identify a group of fans that have more clout and influence [and recognition] than I do.

So here's my question to you: Who do you think is a BNF and why?

[Anonymous posting always enabled and IP addresses never logged. It's my settings.]
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Catch her playing on lj instead of doing whatever the hell it is she's supposed to be doing.

Since this is an illicit post anyway and I will soon have to get back to re-reading Gilbert and Gubar, I think I will indulge in a little whining.

I have an extraordinary amount of anxiety over Dreamwidth. I have a really tiny flist but most of it has already gotten a DW account, is seeking an invite code, or seems likely to head over there when the site goes open and live. I don't use reading filters. If I have friended a journal, that means I read it. And I want to keep reading it! Crossposting sounds awesome, unless the comments are split in two different places and then flipping back and forth between two different sets of comments on the same post will be annoying for pretty much everybody involved, I'd think.

People are going to change their names! If you guys are changing your names, you've already posted about that but what if someone whose fic I adore but who I don't have friended changes hir name and I never click on that story by [ profile] deaniscool because I don't realize it's [ profile] musesfool writing it?

What about communities? Are the people who are getting DW accounts taking their comms with them too? How would that work? If I move, what will I do with [ profile] sga_talk? Most comms need to be in one place to operate well. We certainly couldn't split up the convo at [ profile] sga_talk and have that be a productive thing. How is traffic and participation in comms going to be affected by a potential split between the two platforms?

And I hate to be the voice of inertia, I truly truly do (although if you could see my ass, that role would likely seem natural for me to you), but I am comfortable here at lj. I know how everything works and what I can't figure out, [ profile] hermionesviolin will graciously explain to me. I am not quite a technophobe, but it takes me a while to figure out new interfaces and feel comfortable with them and while all the bells and whistles sound really cool (really truly cool) the thought of having to learn how to do them makes me anxious.

If everyone's going to mass migrate over the course of about a year then while I'm still in a tizzy about moving and figuring things out, I can suck it up, but if this fragments fandom with some staying and some going, I think it's going to make fandom a lot harder for me to navigate and play in.
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I am a little disappointed.

And a little annoyed.

In no small part at myself, but also at fandom at large.

And so I come to you, dear friends who are wiser than me, for advice.

I dropped the ball on the last [ profile] sga_talk discussion. This whole new assistant professor, teaching five classes, QEP, SACS, why yes you have to finish your Ph.D. right now or we won't give you tenure gig is a little exhausting. And stressing. And I forgot to do a reminder post for this last discussion. And I forgot to drum up participation once I saw that I was, again, the only commenter. And I forgot to assign a new piece to read for the 1st of September.

So, yes. Culpability, I own you.

But here's the thing, y'all. Here's the thing.

I think [ profile] sga_talk is awesome for a lot of reasons. I love to write. I am a writer. I become a better writer when I talk with other people about writing. And I like having a structured place to do this. I love to read. I am a reader. I have made reading and nattering on about it to other people my life's profession. I love literary analysis of fanfic. I also love reading outside of my comfort zone. I have so little time to hunt for fic now that I pretty much exclusively read the flist or large challenges like Big Bang. I find the good stuff through [ profile] sga_talk that I would never find otherwise. I also like to meet people and I have met through [ profile] sga_talk some really cool people with interesting ideas about SGA and writing and fandom. I think [ profile] sga_talk is poised to be a vital segment of fandom.

And yet, it saddens me that I have to beg and grovel for participation in what other fans say over and over again that they want.

Believe me when I say that I understand there are obstacles to participating in a comm of this nature. RL is in the way; you have no time to read this week; you hate the featured pairing; you vowed never to read amnesia fic again; you're too wrapped up in Big Bang. All valid reasons not to participate.

But a significant portion of fandom says over and over again that it wants constructive criticism. A significant portion of fandom says over and over again that it thinks of fanfic as having the same kind of value and interest as published works and that it wants literary analysis of fannish works. And yet, in a comm with 69 members, I can count on only four other people besides myself and [ profile] lyrstzha to regularly comment.

So what am I doing wrong? What am I not getting?

And while I am showing my ass, as we say in the South, let me also make this complaint. Why oh why is it that we fans criticize again and again the source material for giving short shrift to women and fanfic for doing the same; why is it that we lament the representation of women and of queer female relationships both in our source texts and in the fannish works we create but when it comes time to read and talk about femslash, everybody disappears? Even in its honeymoon phase when participation in [ profile] sga_talk was at its highest, the femslash selections received the fewest comments. This makes me angry, particularly since there is an AWESOME and truly unique femslash fic sitting in [ profile] sga_talk right now that no one but myself has commented on.

I am having a really hard time reconciling what I think I hear fandom say that it wants and needs and what fandom actually ends up doing.

So, help me, y'all. I think [ profile] sga_talk can be an amazing community, but I don't know how to get it to that point. What can I do (besides, oh, getting my head out of my ass and doing my modly duties like I'm supposed to; *is embarrassed*)? What are your suggestions?
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I've been thinking lately about politeness and civility in fandom and what it means to me. As I said before in a previous post, I believe that fandom is a collection of communities made up of individuals who come to fandom for very different reasons with very different emotional temperaments and backgrounds and who as a result participate in fandom in different ways. As such, I don't think there are overarching rules for how to behave in fandom.

However, I do believe that each fan has a set of *personal* rules for how to behave in fandom that may or may not be shared by the average fan. Since these rules aren't written and it's often hard to tell what's important to a fan just by reading journal posts, I thought that maybe if we talked with each other about what we thought was important in terms of acceptable fannish behavior we could . . . Hmmmm . . . not reach consensus, because I don't think there's a consensus to be reached. But I do think that maybe if we understand a little better what our flists (and the fans we are acquainted with to a lesser degree) feel is important in terms of fannish behavior then maybe the controversy over those few things we can't agree about wouldn't be as heated.

So, to that end, if you had to distill your ideas on what constitutes acceptable fannish behavior into three rules, what would they be? (Remember, these are your ideas about how fans should communicate and interact with each other rather than any other aspect of fandom.)

Mine would be: )

I don't have a lot of personal rules re: fannish behavior because for the most part my fannish experience has been extraordinarily positive. I've never gotten a flame before; no one has ever seriously hurt my feelings in a fannish interaction; fandom has been three and a half years of almost uninterrupted fun for me. I tend to not make rules about things until I have experienced them which accounts for what may seem the weirdness of this list.

ETA [ profile] synecdochic is smarter than me, not surprisingly, and this post pretty much articulates much of what I feel on the subject of concrit, reviews, recs, etc.


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