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1. I realized that everything I had to say about the Vampire Physiology Panel is elegantly explained in irfikos's webpage on her presentation. So no panel recap there.

2. Starbara reading still forthcoming!

3. Ray Nagin's nephew is my student this intersession.

4. Every since Josh started working days, Emma has been so mean to him. All day long when he's at work she talks about missing him and wanting to play with him and as soon as he comes home, she's all, "I only love my Mommy!" and not wanting to have anything to do with him. He's just about the best dad ever and it hurts his feelings so bad and I'm so frustrated with her. I don't know how to make her stop.

5. I feel like I oughta have some response to all the wank going on in [livejournal.com profile] writercon, but I don't have anything new that hasn't been said to add to the convo. Fandom Wank post linked for my own future reference.

Re: on working parents

Date: 2006-08-04 06:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] lunabee34.livejournal.com
I think part of the rudeness issue with me is a Southern thing. We pride ourselves on courtesy and respect and the suchlike. Part of it is the influence of the way I was raised; I could never get away with being rude to my parents.

I think those are some really good suggestions, Elizabeth. Especially the making plans one.

Sometimes she goes beyond just being rude, though. Like sometimes she won't mind him or listen to him which is more problematic than her just being a shit.

Re: on working parents

Date: 2006-08-04 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermionesviolin.livejournal.com
Yeah, my immediate thought when I read "rude" was "Ah, Southerners."

My brother and I learned early on to be civil at grandma's house and in public, but home was always a safe space where we could just be us. [Which sounds more offensive to people who insist their kids not sass back than I actually intend it -- because "safe space" is such a loaded term -- but honesty is so huge for me, and the idea of my immediate family as a truly safe space is so huge for me, that I do honestly squirm a bit at the idea of having to hold in one's feelings -- and yes I know that it's important to learn to keep oneself in check in certain situations... which brings us back to the idea of family unit as unique situation, and yeah I'll stop talking now.] We were pretty well-behaved kids, and we were probably more likely to run to our rooms to stomp and scream than to scream at our parents, but I'm fairly certain we didn't get in trouble for yelling back at them.

I'm glad you think the suggestions are good, and I hope things improve some.

Outright misbehaving is definitely a problem -- though certainly understandable as an outgrowth of her upsetness.

Re: on working parents

Date: 2006-08-04 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trekgirl55.livejournal.com
The suggestions Elizabeth made are pretty much the kind of things that helped my nephew get over this sort of behavior. Thankfully she is more articulate than I. LOL

Re: on working parents

Date: 2006-08-07 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermionesviolin.livejournal.com
I was actually really surprised at how many ideas I came up with, because I am forever saying that I am not a child person. I don't really like them and don't really know how to deal with them. Once I started thinking, though, I just kept building on stuff and having more thoughts.

Re: on working parents

Date: 2006-08-06 03:22 am (UTC)
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It's not so much the holding in of feelings. I wasn't allowed to express my feelings a lot of the time as a kid and I don't want to do that to Emma. It's more: hitting Daddy or refusing to mind him or saying that you don't love him and he's mean or throwing things are not viable options for expressing your feelings. Granted, she's three and much more physically oriented for emotional expression than otherwise, but still not cool. To me, anyways.

Re: on working parents

Date: 2006-08-07 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hermionesviolin.livejournal.com
Oh, hitting is definitely not okay.

I think saying mean things is a valid way of expressing your feelings -- not something that should be encouraged, but given the age I think there's only so much nuance she's capable of and I think learning to verbalize one's emotions is an incredibly important skill (so she should be guided towards articulating why she's upset rather than just throwing insults, but I would definitely encourage the verbalization in preference to physicality). Of course, my experience with this is limited to a younger brother and some baby-sitting so take with grains of salt.

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