Disgruntle workers VERB+NOUN, not ADJ+NOUN

[lunabee34]

[Poll #1315922]

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[havocthecat]

I only back-button faster on bad grammar because it's more immediately noticeable than OOCness.

[lunabee34.livejournal.com]

I once read a like 4 million word (no kidding) fic even though it had the grammar of a one year old because it was pretty much the crossover junkie's extravangazna. Each new section introduced a new XOVER and it was like a game to figure out who and what and why.

TERRIBLE TERRIBLE AWFUL FIC. Which I read all of. And really kind of enjoyed.

[havocthecat]

*nodding* I see your point there, and I do understand that ESL writers might have more issues. (Though I have to say, a lot of the ESL fic writes I know have an incredibly good grasp of English.) I have strong feelings that ESL writers need to have betareaders with a REALLY strong grasp of grammar.

The above would make more sense if I wasn't realy freaking tired. I should sleep. Night! :)

[executrix.livejournal.com]

However, although there is no single standard of grammar that is universally accepted (as I found out by using "gotten" in a B7 fic), there are objective standards that can be consulted, there is something close to one view of what Character X is Really Like per fan, and nothing to check it against. It doesn't work to say "check it against canon" because of the familiar phenomenon of everyone having zir own idiosyncratic set of tapes.

[lunabee34.livejournal.com]

So what's going on in your show?

[(Anonymous)]

Interesting! I'm gonna jump sideways into this topic for bit. I was thinking about the "talking about their feelings" thing today as it relates to the sexin' in fics. I was reading reading a Wincest fic and was thinking about how so often when there's the sexin' happening (in pretty much any fandom), there's usually a WHOLE LOTTA talking going on. Maybe it's just me, but outside of porno movies, it just doesn't feel natural. A few endearments is one thing, but to talk their way through the entire procedue is just wrong! :)

I realize the dialog is part of the story telling, but it is something that can pull me out of a fic. Particularly if it's Dean going all "Cutie Pie, I'm really gonna give it to you now, you big hunka man." to Sam or to any one else, for that matter. Maybe that's where the OOC thing bothers me the most?

What do y'all think?

[lunabee34.livejournal.com]

No, no, I agree.

For the most part (I'm sure there's an exception I can dredge up somewhere) the dialogue heavy sex scene gets on my nerves in any genre. Because people just don't do that. LOL Or if they do, we don't need to read about it. LOL I am very much a fan of the understated in fiction.

I'm not gonna deny that sometimes I just want to read an over the top, melodramatic, schmoopy extravaganza, but the pieces that I come back to over and over--the ones that I think are the best fandom has to offer--are usually more pared down.