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1. I am really sad about Anthony Bourdain. I have always enjoyed his TV persona, and I think the world will be a little less rich without him.

2. So, guess what I just hit on the Re-Read My Own Shelves project? That's right--Earth's Children by Jean M. Auel. I have such nostalgia for this series. I started reading it as a pre-teen and then had to wait like 14 years for Shelters of Stone to come out. LOL Ayla is a running joke on FFA for good reason. She invents whistling! And Oil of Olay! And needles! And surgical stitches! Jondalar is so sad; he can't fall in love because his dick is too big and ladies are first scared of his enormous manhood and then they get addicted and clingy. But Ayla's vagina is the only one cavernous enough in the Paleolithic to accommodate him. That's how he knows they're meant to be! As much as these books are ridiculous in multiple aspects, they are fun reads even if they don't live up to my memory of how awesome they were when I was 11.



The Clan of the Cave Bear (Earth's Children, #1)The Clan of the Cave Bear by Jean M. Auel

My rating: 3 of 5 stars


I think I first read this when I was 11 and in the 6th grade. My best friend brought a copy from her house, and we made a book cover out of construction paper so the teachers wouldn't know what we were reading. LOL

I loved this series when I was a kid/teen. Unfortunately, I don't think it holds up to my memories. The characters are compelling, the plot is interesting, and all the information about how ancient peoples lived (hunting, making clothes, foraging for food, etc) is really interesting (although it can be tedious at times to read three pages of description of deciduous tree leaves). But the writing is not that great; the strength of this series is in the story and not in the beauty of the prose.

If I remember correctly, the series also doesn't live up to the promises it makes all the way back in this first book. Creb sees that the Clan is going to die out and that Ayla's people will remain; he also sees that Clan/Other hybrids will survive. I'm pretty sure as the series progresses, Ayla has dreams about her son Durc and some future confrontation with him. Conflict between Clan and Others is continually referenced. The series pretty clearly telegraphs to me that it will end with Ayla seeing her son again and/or somehow brokering some sort of peace between Clan and Others. And none of that happens. If I remember right, that outcome is being hinted at even in the penultimate book. Such a wasted opportunity.

That being said, I really enjoyed the re-read, and I'm looking forward to reading the rest of the series; I don't think I ever read the final book, but I read the wikipedia summary of it, and I am skeptical that it's going to be a satisfying ending. I remember when it came out, people were annoyed with the ending (although to be fair to Auel, when you take GRRM lengths of time to finish a series, people are going to be annoyed regardless).



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The Valley of Horses (Earth's Children, #2)The Valley of Horses by Jean M. Auel

My rating: 3 of 5 stars


I had forgotten how much of the narrative of these books concerns where babies come from. I find that part extremely tedious.

But Ayla invents the domestication of animals! And the bra (although, technically, she does that in the first one)! And the headband (although technically she does that in the next one)! LOL

I still find the story very compelling; Ayla surviving on her own is fascinating. Jondalar and Thonolan travelling is also very interesting. The writing is still not great.

Jondalar's magnificently sized organ of manhood gets way too much page time. I just about died laughing when I re-read that part where Ayla is the only woman whose womanhood can accommodate Jondalar (so she's got a cavernous hoo-ha? Jondalara's rattling around in there? IDK LOL)

Definitely a good read if very silly in places.



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The Mammoth Hunters (Earth's Children #3)The Mammoth Hunters by Jean M. Auel

My rating: 4 of 5 stars


This one is my favorite of the series.

It's got the strongest writing and the biggest cast of characters. I think part of the issue with The Valley of Horses is that Ayla is in isolation for so much of it; talking to other characters is naturally more exciting and dynamic.

I love Rydag and how Ayla brings him so much joy and changes his life. That part is genuinely moving. The Mamutoi are good people, and I enjoy Ayla and Jondalar interacting with all sorts of people.

As always, all the parts about how to make stuff like lotion and lodgings and clothing are very cool, and the parts about sharing Pleasures are ridiculous and tedious.



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3. Bonus book:

Limericks: Too GrossLimericks: Too Gross by Isaac Asimov

My rating: 1 of 5 stars


Well, that certainly is a thing I read.



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Understanding Writing BlocksUnderstanding Writing Blocks by Keith Hjortshoj

My rating: 3 of 5 stars


This is a slim volume but worth reading. Because it's published in 2001, nothing he's saying about the writing process is very new--just standard comp 1 textbook writing is recursive and etc. What I do think is valuable is insight into why doctoral students and faculty often falter in their efforts to produce dissertations, books, and publishable articles (especially in the humanities). Everything Hrjortshoj has to say about the lack of support and direction for humanities doctoral students was true in my personal experience. He's also got some clear solutions to prevent doctoral students from being paralyzed and stalling out on finishing their dissertations; I think this would be very useful for anyone who's directing graduate work (along with admin like chairs and deans) to read.



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Date: 2018-06-08 03:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] monanotlisa
Well, that certainly is a thing I read.

*giggle*

Thanks for the laughs this morning.

I hadn't consumed any Anthony Bourdain, but I too am sad by proxy. He seemed a down-to-Earth voice in an industry that can get too full of itself, so to speak.

Date: 2018-06-08 05:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] slightweasel
I got such a kick out of Valley of Horses when I was 12. My mom would have had a conniption if she'd known what it was about, but hey, it was a really thick book with horses on the cover, so how bad could it be? xD

Date: 2018-06-08 06:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zulu
Same, but my mom can't blame me! I was a voracious reader at that age, and when I ran out of my own books, she said "go look on my bookshelf," where Valley of the Horses was sitting all innocently. I don't know if she'd read it, or forgotten the contents, or didn't mind. It made me want to be a paleoanthropologist, though! Plus I read the good parts to the other kids on the bus. If you know what I mean and I assume you do.
Edited (left a word out) Date: 2018-06-08 06:27 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-06-08 06:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sholio
I kinda wish these books hadn't become such a cultural joke at this point, because they're awesome books to read when you're 11 or 12 (the age I read them at) - er, obviously all the sex is going to be very much Not Parentally Approved, but it's not like kids don't know, and I remember just skipping all those parts at the time.

But basically they're just straight up Mary Sue Being Awesome, with an emphasis on the young female protagonist building/making/inventing stuff (plus the "escaping to the wilderness" fantasy), and it's actually fairly unique for female protagonists (as opposed to male ones ... I don't think self-inserty badass genius inventors are that uncommon for male characters). And yeah, a lot of it is cheesy and silly, and I intentionally haven't revisited them as an adult because I suspect the suck fairy would have visited them in a major way, heh. But they were glorious escapist reading at an age when I just wanted to make myself little slings and fantasize about living in a cave building stuff.

Date: 2018-06-08 10:57 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
Oh, I did that so much with the bit where she's in the cave surviving the winter in the first book. It was like escapist porn in a time when I was being tortured by school and messed with my by parents. At one point I made a list of all the flowers/herbs mentioned in this notebook (my mother quashed the idea of my living on them by pointing out that the flora/fauna were different in the modern US SW, hah).

Date: 2018-06-08 10:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] goss
I just about died laughing when I re-read that part where Ayla is the only woman whose womanhood can accommodate Jondalar

Ahaha. Oh man...I too was given the Auel books (by my cousin) when I was 11/12 years old. They were a fascinating read for sure. Also, I became a sort of "dealer" as they made the rounds for every pre-teen girl in my school. You should have seen the condition in which they came back to me. Well-worn indeed. LOL. My name somehow remained linked to the Valley of Horses at school, making mention of it years later in my high school year book under my picture. *facepalm* :b

Date: 2018-06-08 11:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
What got passed around in my school was V.C. Andrews. It was like pre-internet preteen girl samizdat.

Date: 2018-06-09 12:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
OMG, WHAT WERE THEY CALLED, STEPBACKS? There used to be a WHOLE SITE devoted to the Andrews covers and models....I think this was it?

http://www.completevca.com/bio_artists.shtml

http://www.completevca.com/lib_doll_attic.shtml


It might've been the madteaparty one, which is dead. sigh.

Date: 2018-06-09 11:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
Those were really popular for quite a while in mall bookstores, from what I remember -- thrillers and horror and gothic type books had them. But Andrews made them blazingly popular.

Date: 2018-06-08 11:00 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
I loved Cave Bear and literally read my copy to pieces as a kid, reread Valley a bunch of times, and somehow completely stalled out on Mammoth Hunters. My favourite bits were always about Ayla living alone and surviving, since I felt so isolated, so when she interacted with other people, it wasn't my catnip. I was also greatly annoyed by the "I love her but I'm not good enough for her/I love him but he doesn't want to fuck me" trope, which I didn't realize at the time was a trope and other peoples' catnip. I kept mentally screaming JUST TALK TO EACH OTHER!

I also remember thinking Jonadalar's bro was a lot hotter than he was, hah.

Date: 2018-06-08 11:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sholio
I remember being really upset about Jondalar's brother getting killed at age NINE. Or however old I was when I first read that book (I think I was about nine or ten). I liked him!

Date: 2018-06-09 12:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
He was such a sweetheart! Whereas Jondalar was kind of this cold fish creep (because he was So Irresistible To All Women). What was his name anyway? Thanalon? ....hah, Thonolan, almost had it.

Date: 2018-06-09 12:37 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
I think that was one of my first reactions of "but I like the sidekick, not the Dreamy Hero," heh.

Date: 2018-06-09 12:41 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
-- OMG, I was just reading this and I TOTALLY FORGOT HE THOUGHT HER SON WAS AN ABOMINATION. What a jackass! I'm sure Thonolan would have thought no such thing.

Date: 2018-06-09 11:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
Thonolan would apologize better

Date: 2018-06-09 01:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cathexys
OMG, didn't we all get imprinted on Ayla? It was pretty awesome in principle though, wasn't it (And I still like some of the abstract concept things Ayla accomplished even if it's all very nonscientific). That was the age of the shared memory/skill thing, right? Mists of Avalon and Fires of Troy had some of that too, I think.

As for Valleys of the Hoses--I just remember the lengthy (for what I'd get out the library :) sex scene. That was actually kinda hot unlike the Henry Miller stuff, for example that was supposed to be sexy and never was.

Date: 2018-06-09 11:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
Valley of Horses has a surprising amount of Ayla-centered foreplay in it compared to other romance/adult novels of the time, IIRC.

Henry Miller, gag. Another 'sexy' writer who turned me off cold was John Updike. He was so clinical and nasty, and saw women as animals.

Date: 2018-06-09 03:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] archersangel
i never read this series. at one time i wanted to, but then found out some of the plotlines & thought; "maybe not."

i can't recall what i was reading at 11-12, maybe mysteries? or some trek novels? i recall some sort of teen romance (with a helping of against) phase.

ETA: i know i was reading sleepover friends at about that time. possibly some babysitters club. other than that. i'm not sure.
Edited Date: 2018-06-09 03:14 am (UTC)

Date: 2018-06-10 06:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lyr
I remember liking Clan of the Cave Bear okay, though I read it when I was ten, so I doubt it would hold up so well for me now either. But I never got much further, because Valley of the Horses was at least half really bad porn, and the proportion seemed to increase thereafter. Good porn, mind you, I'd've read. But all that special magnificent manhood with healing powers? No. I do remember it now when I'm writing sex, though - as a reminder of what not to do.

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