Sunday is for shitpollsting about childhood animated favorites

[lunabee34]

Poll #21490 if it's not Baroque, don't fix it

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So many dead moms, Disney. What's up with that?

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it's a tired ass trope that should be retired
16 (72.7%)

and it's not any better when the dad dies instead
8 (36.4%)

for a kid to be a hero, they have to be isolated; taking away a support system is part of that
6 (27.3%)

if the parents are around, then there's way too much taking a bath and not eating dessert before dinner and way too little of embarking on dangerous quest
9 (40.9%)

sometimes it's well done, and I'll tell you where in the comments
1 (4.5%)

Beauty and the Beast: Those three chicks who keep swooning after Gaston

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get over his loss with the power of group sex
12 (52.2%)

trek into the bottom of the ravine, gather together his mangled bones, and bring back something not quite Gaston
6 (26.1%)

each marry some local Joe, each secretly wistful for their rest of their lives for Gaston
4 (17.4%)

start working at the castle and discover they love reading with Belle's help
8 (34.8%)

Little Mermaid: Ariel

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totally regrets losing her legs
6 (25.0%)

thinks Ursula was scary but also wishes she had that kind of power
15 (62.5%)

has children with fins who must go to the sea if they are to survive
5 (20.8%)

assassinates her first subject for mistakenly baking Flounder
3 (12.5%)

continues to brush her hair with a fork until the day she dies
14 (58.3%)

Land Before Time: Best closing credits song ever?

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yes
5 (50.0%)

hell yes
2 (20.0%)

not as good as the one in Guardian
2 (20.0%)

and also yes
3 (30.0%)

Comments

[china_shop]

Thank you! <3

(In case you haven't actually heard it: Just Cared Too Much.)

[lunabee34]

I hadn't heard it!

*has it playing*

It's very pretty. I like it.

[archersangel]

i'm fairly sure " Those three chicks who keep swooning after Gaston" were sisters, or maybe triplets, so "get over his loss with the power of group sex" is really NOT the way to go.

[lunabee34]

Ha! It never occurred to me they could be sisters.

I think it's debatable whether that would make it a feature or a bug. :)

[misbegotten]

*sporfle*

(Also... wuh? They were sisters? I totally missed that.)

[lunabee34]

I didn't think they were sisters either (although that adds an interesting dimension to them; there can be only one Methos wife after all).

[conuly]

I haven't been able to think of any of the Land of Time movies ever since learning about the unpleasant real life story. (Long story short, one of the child actors was murdered by her father.)

[lunabee34]

Oh,no. I did not know that. How horrible. :(

[conuly]

And ever since I read that on Wikipedia, you understand....

[lunabee34]

Yeah. :(

[chanter1944]

Oh my lord. That is horrifying. :( I had no idea.

[torachan]

Come on, only two other people voted for "trek into the bottom of the ravine, gather together his mangled bones, and bring back something not quite Gaston"? Really!?

[kore]

I read Pet Semetary too young, what can I say.

[lunabee34]

LOL

That book is really scary! I haven't read it since about ten or so when it totally scared the beejeesus out of me.

[kore]

I read like half of it standing up in a B. Dalton's in the old Santa Fe mall (ahhh, memories) and had nightmares FOR WEEKS.

[lunabee34]

Ahahhahahahha. I'm visualizing it now. :)

[lunabee34]

I know! Where's the sense of adventure anymore?

At least one more person has joined the grisly club since you posted LOL, so there's that.

[kore]

SO TIRED OF DEAD MOMS! This new season of Who had something like FOUR.

[lunabee34]

That is a lot of dead moms.

I am very tired of the dead moms, too. And I don't want dead dads either.

I've noticed that lately movies are trying to accomplish the same lack of supervision goals with making the parents distracted/borderline neglectful as in Coraline, but I'm not sure that's actually much of an improvement.

[independence1776]

My "sometimes well done" answer: Lilo and Stitch. The movie could not exist without them having died; it's not a trope of "oh that's sad; let's move on", but "this is what happens when you're orphaned (and then an alien falls from the sky and you accidentally adopt him)."

And I skipped the last one because I didn't even remember there was a song at the end.

[lunabee34]

OMG, yes yes yes.

Watching Lilo and Stitch yesterday with Fiona is actually what prompted this pollst. LOL I love that movie so hard.

For whatever reason, I glommed on so hard to that end song of Land Before Time: We can go on together; we know our dreams will never die; dreams see us through to forever, as high as souls can fly--or something like that.

[author_by_night]

I've planned out a few fantasy story ideas, and honestly, having parental figures out of the way is just easier because the characters are less restricted. It's also less horrifying to think about from the other end - you don't have to worry how the parent must be feeling when their kids go through all those things! (Even if it's children's fantasy or fairy tales, where the stakes are relatively low.Especially given that they're only really low because we know nothing terrible is going to happen to them.)

As far as fairy tales specifically go, I think many also originate in a time when parents often were absent, and children found themselves at the mercy of caregivers who didn't necessarily have the best of intentions. Or even if they did, were not able to be as supported as they wanted. I imagine even fathers were at a loss - back then, the mothers did the parenting. A loving father still might have had no idea what to do with a child or several children. Other adults took advantage of orphans or otherwise disadvantaged children when they were supposed to care for them.

[lunabee34]

Yeah, I think lack of parental oversight is the big reason that the parents get offed in these shows. But as I said upthread:

I've noticed that lately movies are trying to accomplish the same lack of supervision goals with making the parents distracted/borderline neglectful as in Coraline, but I'm not sure that's actually much of an improvement.